tbaangel-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 17 Today's Topics: repost of intro intro RE: hello again A LURKER NO MORE Re: tbaangel-d Digest V97 #16 Re: Sunday's Episode Re: Re Intro Re: RE: hello again Fwd: About Me Fwd: RE: Sunday's Episode Intro - repost Re: I like Celeste... {and er, I love doves too} RE: Sunday's Episode Regarding Last Sunday's Repeat Fwd: Re: Fwd: RE: Sunday's Episode Wanted to share a personal experience with other TBAA fans Re: I like Celeste... {and er, I love doves too} TV Guide Quoting text in replies Re: Sunday's Episode ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:36:03 -0600 From: Mariann To: TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: repost of intro Gosh, I can't remember what I wrote before but I do remember getting my age transposed! ooops! I'm 32 (not 23) and I'm from a very small town in Michigan. I was born and raised Catholic and still practice this religion. I don't judge other people's religions or non religions. I have five older brothers. I have a wonderful fiance' whom I adore. He was a 6 year old daughter from a previous marriage. She is the light of my life. I have a cat named R.E.M. (yes, after the alternative rock band)hehehe. I love TBAA as well as Promised Land. I also love watching re-runs of Little House on the Prairie. I am a secretary by day and a dance instructor for children by night (although I took this year off from dance). I enjoy dance, volleyball, writing and being a smart ass. I'm hoping to be married by September of this year. A favorite past time of mine is to get together with my brothers and tell funny stories of our childhood. :) Gee, don't I sound boring! *nudge* Come on, wake up guys! hahahah Now officially an unlurker, Mariann ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:49:55 CST From: 971hays @ . addy.addy.edu To: TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: intro Hi! My name is Sean and I am 27 years old. I am a graduate student in psychology at Northeast Louisiana University (at the moment). I have 2 brothers and 3 sisters, only one of whom shares my love of TBAA. In fact, she is the one who got me started watching it. In addition to TBAA, I watch PL (yes, I know some of you don't like it :-)), E.R., Seventh Heaven, Dr. Quinn, several of the English sitcoms on public TV, and whatever sitcom appeals to me at the moment. I love to read - mostly junk romances right now, but I also like mysteries and horror stuff (like Koontz). I enjoy working math puzzles and logic problems, too. Any other hobbies I've ever had have fallen by the wayside since I came back to school. I am a newbie and am really enjoying learning what I can about the internet. If any of you have suggestions for good web sites to visit, please e-mail me privately. I would greatly appreciate it. Meanwhile, I think I'll just lurk until I think of something interesting to say. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:04:51 -0800 From: Kevin Brown To: TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: RE: hello again MSG.dns.addy.com> > From: Dorothy E Tinkler[SMTP:dorothy @ . .Addy.EDU] > > PS To both Kevins, do I have to watch PL so that I can critically > evaluate > > it? Please not!!! > Why not? Is there something you have against it without having watched it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:04:55 -0600 (CST) From: Darla Bradley To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com Subject: A LURKER NO MORE Hi--I'm Darla, 45 years old and a Library Assistant at Southern Illinois University at Carbondale. Live in DuQuoin, IL with my Balinese cat, Sashya, and my aquarium full of south American cichlids. I'm divorced, (5 years now) never had any children. My pets are my babies. I love TBAA; wouldn't miss it for anything. Just wish they would show episode titles at the beginning of each show. I'm taping them, and it sure would make it easier to figure out which episode I want to re-watch at any given point in time. I also think the Kleenex folks should become a sponsor of the show. . .regular viewers sure seem to use enough of it; I do, anyway! Each episode I've seen has made me cry. . .a person would have to have a heart of stone not to cry over many of these episodes. The messages behind them, and the ways in which these messages are delivered are so beautiful! The episode called "Labor of Love" with Priscilla Presley, is my favorite episode to date. Perhaps because Andrew was in the episode so much? *Drool* :-) All fans of this show should visit the TBAA website and get the addresses for both the show, and the president of CBS. I just fired off letters to both, telling them how much I like the show, and especially John Dye, in the role of Andrew. He's got the kindest eyes and smile--he's perfect for the part! (I can also see why they cast him as the Angel of Death. . .he's so handsome, he's a real heartstopper!) Gotta run! Looking forward to more postings. I enjoy the interesting comments from other fans. Darla ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:58:58 -0800 From: marlis ostermann To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Re: tbaangel-d Digest V97 #16 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, My name is Marlis, and I'm a bit shy about writing about myself, but here goes my intro :-) I'm 27 years old, female/single, and currently a substitute school teacher, although I hope to get a permanent teaching job by September. My main specialty is middle school science, but I have been called to fill in for anything from grade 1 to grade 12 home ec. I thoroughly enjoy teaching, although it can be challenging at times. I live in a small city called Abbotsford in southern B.C., Canada (right beside Washington state). I enjoy music, (I am a member of a local community band(I play flute)), swimming, horseback riding, and sewing/handcrafts. I like TBAA because for me, it helps to make God more concrete and tangible, as he helps people through the angels. All too often, there are times for me, when God seems distant, or nonexistant. However, this show reminds me that he is always there, looking out for me, that I'm not alone. I am a christian myself, but I am always interested in learning about other faiths and beliefs. Unfortuneately, I can't receive cable where I live, so I try to get my sister or friends to tape TBAA for me. Occasionally, one of the local independent stations will air it, but it tends to be scattered. Unfortuneately, I missed last Sunday's episode, but I hope to catch it when it airs again. Well, that's enough about me. I'm glad to meet you all. :-) Marlis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:02:06 -0600 From: Kay Martinez To: Mariann , TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Re: Sunday's Episode Hi Mariann and All, Your post really touched me. And no, I don't think your nuts for sharing your story. It's a beautiful story and has helped me to be brave enough to share mine. The episode of TBAA about the family gathering while the father was dying is one of the many episodes that really touched me. My dad had died not long before that and we had not spoken for a bit before his death. To make a long story short (would be glad to give details in email if anyone would like whole story), I found out he had died on the day after his death, when the medical school contacted me,(not realizing I was his daughter), telling me that they had his body. This happened about 15 minutes after I had walked in with my daughter from her biopsy for suspected cervical cancer at age 16. Anyway, in that episode when the sisters, brother & mom were with the dad as he died and they had all made peace with one another...well it just reduced me to tears. I cried thru most of that episode. And I realized that God knew my heart and all the difficulties that had gone on between my dad and I and also that my dad was no longer suffering as he had for several years prior to his death. Just made me wish some of those unsaid things could've been said. Thanks all for listening Kay At 09:18 AM 3/24/97 -0600, Mariann wrote: >I know Sunday's episode of TBAA was a re-run but I hadn't seen it. Boy, was >it awfully hard for me to watch. Since people on this mailing list seem >sweet and sincere, I will share something with you: Four years ago, I had >to hold my mother's hand and tell her to "go into the light". It was the >most painful experience of my life. It was 4 years ago this Tuesday. She >died of cancer after struggling with it for 11 years. Anyway, seeing that >espisode made me feel better about the situation because I had always >wondered if I had said and did the right things for my mother as she was >dying. I had always wondered if saying "go into the light" was the right >thing. It bothered me for years. What do you guys think? > >After my mother died, this lady named Debra from my neighborhood said that >Sue (also a lady from my neighborhood who was dying of cancer) was on her >deathbed and Sue told Debra that she thought she might want to let go and >die but she was afraid and then, MY MOTHER and her friend who had died >appeared to her wearing white robes and held out their hands to her and >told her it was okay to go. I couldn't believe it! When this woman told >me this, it gave me such a sense of peace inside knowing that my mother was >out of pain and in a better place. Gosh, I really hope you guys don't >think I'm nuts for telling you this. I just thought it was a wonderful >story told to me. > >Take Care, > >Mariann > >PS Jennie: I come from a big family too! I have five older brothers too! > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:38:54 -0500 (EST) From: Signpraise @ . .addy.com To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Re: Re Intro It's so nice to meet so many people out there who share the same interest in TBAA. I feel as if I have a whole new bunch of friends out there. Hello New Friends. God Bless You one and all. I have been watching TBAA for a long time now, however I seriously began watching it ever since I saw the Christmas episode in Christmas of 1997...Now I tape it every Sunday...I am in church all day Sunday so I never used to see it anymore since they started coming on on Sunday nights...Thank God, I saw the preview for TBAA one day in the middle of the week when they were going to show what the show was going to be about, I taped it and ever since then, I have been HOOKED!!!! My name is Judy and I am 27 years old. I work as a sign language interpreter for the Board of Education. I have been doing this for the past 3 to 4 years now. I also sign every Sunday I am single and sometimes I feel very lonely. I live with my mom and my sister. I am reading the book TBAA.... The story "Unexpected Snow" encouraged me so much...I have never seen this episode...I hope they rerun a lot of these shows by the way!!! Anyway, I have never had an affair and I have never had a boyfriend, so I can understand how the charachter Megan felt(the loneliness). I was talking to a friend this weekend as we were driving to church and she said she wished that an angel would come and speak with her after she watched the show. I have the same feeling because when Monica said to Megan, "I'll dance at ur wedding, " that brought such comfort and joy to Megan because she was excited about the prospect of having someone just for her...If feel the same way..but I know I have to "wait on God" as all my friends from church always say. So that's my story. I am a single Christian young lady waiting and hoping for a man to love me and only me, but until then, I am trying to be patient...many times I fail, but whenever I watch a taped episode of TBAA, I am encouraged and reminded about God's great love for me...for all of us...We are all so blessed aren't we. Well that's it for now...Ohh, I also sing in my church choir...We won 2 grammy's God is So Good! We sing the songs of salvation, hope, healing and peace...we are always encouraged when we sing, because we believe in what we sing. I am a blessed person because I have Christ in my life... Hugs in Christ to all, Judy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:09:07 -0500 (EST) From: Finabair @ . .addy.com To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Re: RE: hello again > > PS To both Kevins, do I have to watch PL so that I can critically >Why not? Is there something you have against it without having watched Uh, folks...this is sounding a mite testy...if you want to debate whether or not you have the right to dislike a show and what the prerequisites for being allowed to dislike a show are, could you do that in private mail? Thanks. Take care, Jennie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:11:36 -0500 (EST) From: Finabair @ . .addy.com To: TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Fwd: About Me This didn't go through to the list...the listserv doesn't recognize the address it came from. :-) So I'm forwarding. Take care, Jennie --------------------- Forwarded message: From: mslater @ . .addy.com (Mark) To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com (TBAA (E-mail)) Date: 97-03-24 23:33:42 EST Hello everyone I guess I should tell you about myself. I see everyone else is doing it.. Well, Lets see I'm 31 (JUST turned it 2/26). I'm a computer programmer. I live in San Diego. I have a 9 year old daughter, Her name is Michelle. I'm been divorced for about 9 years now. I never miss an episode of "TBAA" , "Promise Land", "Walker Texas Ranger", "Early Edition", and the old reruns of "The Waltons". I like to Scuba Dive, Snow Ski, Sail. Check out our web site... http://www.addy.com (Its new and Under Construction) Mark Slater Associate/Developer - Satulah Information Systems San Diego, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:12:45 -0500 (EST) From: Finabair @ . .addy.com To: TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Fwd: RE: Sunday's Episode Forwarding one more... Take care, Jennie --------------------- Forwarded message: From: mslater @ . .addy.com (Mark) To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com (TBAA (E-mail)) Date: 97-03-24 23:56:10 EST (Well that was different) Let Try again It was hard for me too.. But it was really good. I live in San Diego. I found my grandmother when she died in her apartment. I thing that was the hardest thing I have done.. She also loved the show (Never missed an episode.) Mark Slater Associate/Developer - Satulah Information Systems San Diego, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 05:58:55 -0500 (EST) From: IDyeForYou @ . .addy.com To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Intro - repost Hi everyone, I'm Susan and if you can't tell from my screenname....I'm a very prejudiced John Dye fan. I adore TBAA and have watched the show since the first ep...but am first and foremost a fan of John's and have been since 1984. I am also the webmistress/ designer for the John Dye web page..which is located along with my personal web page at http://funnymonkey.com I am also CyberSuzan @ . .addy.com In addition to what I do for John individually...I also send out e-mails weekly to a large group of TBAA fans updating the ratings and any current TBAA news...I also post this e-mail to the list... Aside from the TBAA stuff...I have begun a new job in Arlington, Va. as a Graphics Designer....and will become part of a web team in 18 months...so I am very excited. I may be a little quiet for a few weeks...till I get settled...but I will be reading the posts eagerly. In addition to John and TBAA...I love TV (especially ER and Forever Knight) and movies and am developing a new found passion for the theatre (give me "Rent" in '97). I'm an idiot for all types of music and I love to read..especially biographies and the classics and I adore Shakespeare. I'm a computer buff...at least when it comes to the internet and web design. Also, I love most sports...watching most and playing some - love College and Pro football (Miss. State, UTK, UGA and 49'ers), Baseball (Braves) - after all I am a southern girl born and bred. Anyone who wants to know more about me than that...can look at my web page - I've infiltrated the list enough for one post.... In closing...remember that whatever your similarities..whatever your differences.. What's in the heart defines the measure of a man.....God rejoices in the condition of the heart. God Bless, Susan ****************************************************************************** ***************** "If you only see with your eyes - you never really see" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:15:29 -0800 From: Mich To: TBAA mail post Subject: Re: I like Celeste... {and er, I love doves too} Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, I feel confident none of this message should require "clearance" from Jennie... :-) Ann from Nebraska wrote: > Putting in my two bits, Hudson did a good enough job that > I didn't even recognize her until it was pointed out by > someone else. Which is quite something considering one > of her Xena eps was on here the same night. > Thanks for sharing your compliment! Hudson probably strives to make an impression like that with all fans who view both Xena:WP and TBAA... Then Ann wrote: > I know *I* get incredibly riled if someone tells me > what I meant when I said something, rather than > asking for clarification if they're unsure. It's not a > terribly constructive strategy in any sort of discussion, > and online can be quietly infuriating, even done innocently. > You're right. And I apologize to Kevin and any other TBAA fans who see "Callisto" while Celeste is on the screen. No, that doesn't mean you believe Hudson is acting poorly. And I did deserve to get "tactfully" flame broiled. {Jennie can testify I already felt a little uncomfortable after sending my response to Kevin's message, even before I read Ann's reply.} > In any case, thinking of any actor's other roles during > a performance does not automatically constitute a criticism. > Yes, I must agree. I believe Richard Crenna is a solid actor. But when I was a kid, Dad would always quip, "There's Luke McCoy". I never saw Richard in the "Real McCoys" series, but I always think about Dad's quips when I see Richard on the screen, including last Sunday's movie. I also believe Dennis Weaver has been a very entertaining actor throughout his career. Dad would also quip about Dennis as "Chester Goode" during the "Gunsmoke" series. And I've seen numerous early Gunsmoke episodes rerun on cable. So I must also confess I even thought about "Chester" when Dennis was in the previous Sunday TV movie. > I've grown very fond of Celeste, a character that, by all rights, > I should want to smack with a ping-pong paddle. Whod'a thunk it? > Well, I'm not sure I understand why you should want to "smack" Celeste, but I'm glad you're very fond of her. And I hope Hudson and the TBAA writers cause many other fans to eventually grow fond of Celeste.... {{{{{Ann}}}}} {{{{{Kevin}}}}} Sincerely, Mich {A k a "LeickMichigan" on the Xena:WP and Hercules:TLJ forums} P.S. Yes, I'm originally from Michigan. Although now I live near New Lebanon, NY (very near the NY/MA state line). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:28:28 -0800 From: Mich To: TBAA mail post Subject: RE: Sunday's Episode Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mariann wrote: > I know Sunday's episode of TBAA was a re-run but I hadn't seen it. Boy, was it awfully hard for me to watch. Since people on this mailing list seem sweet and sincere, I will share something with you: Four years ago, I had to hold my mother's hand and tell her to "go into the light". It was the most painful experience of my life. It was 4 years ago this Tuesday. ... > > Hi Mariann, Thanks for sharing your wonderful intimate experience with everyone! It's a pleasure and a privilege to be able to share heartfelt thoughts and experiences with the lovely people on this mailing list... I sincerely regret not having been at Dad's side when he passed over into the "light" five years ago. I still remember how empty and alone I felt when I received that dreadful notification phone call from my stepmother. The knowledge Dad died suddenly and peacefully in his sleep provided very little comfort. But the knowledge Dad and Grandpa are together in the light awaiting my arrival is a very comforting assurance... I'm a relatively new TBAA viewer. And I wish I'd developed the habit of viewing TBAA much sooner. However, I'm fortunate to be enjoying all the episodes as new experiences now... :-) And yes, last Sunday's episode was "hard" to watch for me also (even though Dad passed under entirely different circumstances). I usually view "Touched by an Angel" with a friend. But I was glad I was alone when I watched last Sunday, because I'm one of those guys who doesn't allow anyone to see me cry. {I don't know how I would've reacted last Sunday if I wasn't alone.} Well, near the end of that powerful episode the tears flowed very freely.... Sincerely, Mich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:31:38 -0500 (EST) From: JCWEAVER @ . .addy.com To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Regarding Last Sunday's Repeat I don't suppose that they have touched on an episode that dealt with a visit from a deceased loved one months later.... my family was taking care of my grandmother and a great-aunt of ours. AUnt Mae was real feisty, testy, and to some, mean. Funny how a 11-year old can change the life of a woman real fast. I told her that I don't care how mean she was because I loved here anyway. I climbed right on her lap and told her that, a year before her death. In the summer of '78, I went across the street to a local church to attend summer church school. It was also the time that Aunt Mae went and out of the hospital due to her respitory and cardiac problems. Well, at one point in school, she seemed like she was not going to make it. She was even sent home to rest. I was in so much turmoil that I turned to one of the lay people and asked for help. I don't remember the lady who helped me, but she was with me when I prayed to God about Aunt Mae. I felt better after that. I felt that God had listened. The night of my birthday, Aunt Mae made her peace with God as He took her home. It didn't dawn on me at one in the morning that she had died; I was more concerned about sleep. The next day I had to deal with the shock, only not as bad. The loss really hit me after the funeral. Six months later, I dreamed I was getting ready for school. I was brushing my teeth, when Aunt Mae came back. I mean, she came back, in her favoirte blue and white striped gown. She stood there smiling at me, never said a word. I woke up with a start, and felt her in my heart. I told the family in-between tears of what happened, and barely made it through school. Just thought I share that with you. John C. Weaver Reseda, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:18:33 -0500 (EST) From: Finabair @ . .addy.com To: TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: RE: Sunday's Episode More forwards. :-) Jennie --------------------- Forwarded message: From: dbradley @ . .lib.addy.edu (Darla Bradley) To: Finabair @ . .addy.com Date: 97-03-25 13:02:18 EST At 01:12 AM 3/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >Forwarding one more... > >Take care, > >Jennie >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >From: mslater @ . .addy.com (Mark) >To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com (TBAA (E-mail)) >Date: 97-03-24 23:56:10 EST > > (Well that was different) Let Try again > > It was hard for me too.. But it was really good. I >live in San Diego. I found my grandmother when she died in her >apartment. I thing that was the hardest thing I have done.. She also >loved the show (Never missed an episode.) > > > Mark Slater > Associate/Developer - Satulah Information Systems > San Diego, CA > > >Dear Mark-- How awful for you. . .my maternal grandparents raised me, so I can understand your pain. My grandpa is no longer living. I miss him so much. He passed away in 1979. My grandma will be 88 on 23 June 1997. She still lives in her own home, and God willing, will be healthy and alive at 100! Grandma is as much a TBAA fan as I am! Darla Bradley Du Quoin, IL > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:27:30 -0600 (CST) From: Darla Bradley To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Wanted to share a personal experience with other TBAA fans Hi--I'm Darla. Another fan on the list, JC Weaver, shared an experience about his aunt who visited him in a dream following her death. I just sent him an e-mail, sharing a similar experience. I'd also like to share it with the rest of the TBAA fans on the list. My maternal grandparents raised me. My grandpa was the only father I've ever known. He passed away in 1979 at the age of 74. I was living in a trailer court approximately 7 miles from my grandparents' home in 1982. I received a visit from my grandfather in a dream. . .I guess it was a dream. . .but it was so real that I could kiss him, touch him, feel him hugging me. I was sitting at my kitchen table, drinking coffee, when I heard a knock at the door. There stood my grandpa, looking just as I remembered him when he was healthy. He came in, sat down at the table with me, and had coffee. I was so happy to see him again. . .all I could do was hug him, kiss him, and cry. After a while, he got up to leave, saying that he couldn't stay. . .I begged him not to go, but he said that he had to. He kissed me goodbye, went out the door, and was gone. I really believe that my grandfather did pay me a visit, even if it was in a dream. That's the most vivid dream I've ever had, before or since. I think it was Grandpa's way of telling me to accept his death, that he was happy, was in a better place, and would be waiting for me when my time comes. Wouldn't it be neat if TBAA could deal with this subject in one of its episodes? I'm sure others than JC Weaver and myself have had similar experiences. Darla Bradley Du Quoin, IL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:30:42 -0500 (EST) From: IDyeForYou @ . .addy.com To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Re: I like Celeste... {and er, I love doves too} In a message dated 97-03-25 08:17:59 EST, tbaangel @ . .execpc.com writes: << And I hope Hudson and the TBAA writers cause many other fans to eventually grow fond of Celeste.... >> I very much like Hudson....but am I the only one who never wants to see Celeste again? She just doesn't work for me...maybe I'll change my mind eventually.... Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:31:05 -0700 (MST) From: Dorothy E Tinkler To: tbaa Subject: TV Guide Hi everybody: I just picked up next week's TV Guide and there is an interview with Della, Roma, John and Martha in it. Thought you all might be interested. Dorothy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:32:43 -0500 (EST) From: Finabair @ . .addy.com To: TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Quoting text in replies Sorry, folks, I shoulda looked more closely at that note I just forwarded...but it's something I've noticed in a lot of notes lately anyhow. *Please* don't quote entire messages when you're replying to them. Just quote a few lines to give the people reading your response an idea of what you're replying to. Otherwise we wind up with 20 copies of one entire message, and that gets to be a bit much. It fills up small mailboxes faster as well, which causes problems for some people. So please take care with the amount of text you're quoting. Thanks! Take care, Jennie finabair @ . .addy.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:47:08 -0500 (EST) From: JCWEAVER @ . .addy.com To: tbaangel @ . .execpc.com, TBAAngel @ . .execpc.com Subject: Re: Sunday's Episode At times, I am glad that TBAA touches on these subjects. It puts a kind of perspective on to live life, and how to die with dignity. There are some episodes, and I can think of one, that really makes you look at what you have done to others. How much of an impact, either good or bad, that you made in someone' s life. I keep thinking of the mistakes that I have done, all the harm I have caused, all the deceits told, all the pain I have caused, and some that I was not aware of. God finds a way to get these messages to you. Either in church, temple, in public, friends, family, even on tv, God finds a way. TBAA is one of them. God keeps telling you, like a parent that cares after his children, that He loves you and me. Period. For me, it takes a great deal of humilty, humbleness, and embarrassment to drive this home. I have to go through a lot to hear this. I wish TBAA found a way past the human will, being stubborn as it is. Even in this, God does not give up. I just have to keep believing that He will not abandon you and me even if we abandon Him due to human free will. Funny thing, I think Ma is modeled after Him... whoa! What a concept! ;) John C. Weaver Reseda, CA -------------------------------- End of tbaangel-d Digest V97 Issue #17 **************************************