tbaangel-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 23

Today's Topics:
	 Re: Oprah sho
	 The Rules
	 Oprah vs Xena
	 Fwd: Thought this might be of interest
	 Re: Oprah sho
	 Re: Oprah show
	 Oprah snaps and wavs
	 Oprah
	 Thougts as I watched this week's ep( and Re: eps I want to see....)
	 Sunday's ep

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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:23:40 -0500 (EST)
From: ERIC ISENBARGER <as458 @ .addy.addy.addy.us>
To: deelady @ .addy..com
Cc: tbaangel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Re: Oprah sho

Della's nickname for John Dye? "'Love Juice'. It's our little secret."

John may have a point.  How many people do *you* know that would be happy
to see the Angel of Death sitting next to them on a plane?  If they knew
his true nature, they would get very nervous!

I agree that Oprah should have given the cast and exec producer the whole
hour to talk about the show.  I'm disappointed that they weren't given
more time to talk.  I think Oprah cut off John Dye because she wasn't used
to being upstaged by the Angel of Death! :)

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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:49:34 -0500 (EST)
From: ERIC ISENBARGER <as458 @ .addy.addy.addy.us>
To: TBAA <TBAAngel @ .execpc.com>
Subject: The Rules

>From Martha Wiliamson's book, here is a shortened list of rules the
cast and crew follow on TBAA.  It may help the discussion somewhat. Here
they are:

a.  Angels do not have power over life and death.

b.  Angels do not lie.

c.  Angels do not disobey God's orders without serious consequences.

d.  Angels, in the strictest of terms, do not "have faith."

e.  Angels are not superstitious.

f.  Angels cannot change the past, nor do they predict or see into the
future.

g.  Angels do not allow themselves to be the focus of worship.

h.  Angels must perform their duties on earth with human bodies that don't
always do what they want them to do.

i.  Special dispensation-occasionally, God will lift the rules of nature
or time or physics to accomplish His purpose.

j.  The Angel of Death is nothing to be afraid of.

k.  Angels are not all in the choir.

l.  Angels, though capable of performing small miracles with the power God
allows them, prefer to rely on truth rather than tricks to make a point.

m.  Angels work on a "need to know" basis.

n.  Angels are not "recycled dead people," but created beings, creatures
fashioned by God. 

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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 20:26:28 -0800
From: marlis ostermann <mosterma @ .addy.net>
To: tbaangel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Oprah vs Xena

I watched the Oprah show from my sister's place, as the reception there
is much better.  Unfortuneately, I had to share the airtime with my
niece who wanted to watch Xena(with Hudson ;-), so I missed bits of
it(we were flipping back and forth).  Does anyone know if the Oprah show
sells tapes of shows?  I know they sell transcrips, but I'd like to have
a video copy.  
	I enjoy watching interviews and behind the scenes glimpses because it
gives one a chance to see the actors out of character, although I wasn't
sure where Tess ended, and Della started (not that I minded, I like Tess
;-)  From what I did see, She did seem to dominate the interview
somewhat, but like others have mentioned, Oprah might not have let
anyone get their point across otherwise.  I really liked the sense of
joy and comaraderie the group had.  They really have a great chemistry
together.  And how about the standing ovation the crowd gave Della as
she came in?  They really liked her.  I'd love to hear her preach some
day.  She makes no bones about her convictions.  And John looked
exceptionally handsome, as always *sigh*
	Now, a bit of a side note.  Has anyone read Frank Peretti's "This
Present Darkness", or its sequel "Piercing the Darkness"?  It's about
angels as well, and about spiritual warfare around a little town called
Ashton.  The angels are fairly different from the TBAA universe, but it
gives a bit of a different perspective.  They're both great reading.  I
couldn't put them down.  I've finished reading the first TBAA book,
loved it, and am looking forward to the next.  By the way, I was
snooping through the archives of the digests before I joined, and there
was some talk about a TBAA chat through MIRC, or something else.  Is
that active?  I'd like to join if there is one.
	Anyways, I've blabbed enough for now ;-)
		GB's (God's Blessings 0:-) to one and all.
			Marlis

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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 00:32:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Finabair @ .addy.com
To: TBAAngel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Fwd: Thought this might be of interest

This came to the wrong addy, so I'm forwarding! 

Take care,

Jennie
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Forwarded message:
From:	morgaine @ .addy.net (Kay Martinez)
To:	tbaangel-request @ .execpc.com
Date: 97-03-30 00:28:24 EST

Hi All, 

I saw this on a newsgroup and thought it might be of interest to all us
TBAA fans.

Kay


      According to the New York Post,  CBS will have a 
>> 3-drama lineup on April 13 hosted by Roma Downey of
>> "Touched by an Angel".   After "60 Minutes",  CBS will
>> air a lineup of new episodes of "Touched by an Angel",
>> "Early Edition" and a first-run "Chicago Hope".    The
>> speculation is that CBS may drop one of its movie 
>> nights for the fall because of its increasing scheduling
>> committments.   So the April 13 experiment may 
>> determine if CBS drops its Sunday movie for drama
>> programming on a more permanent basis.

>On the one hand, CBS generally picks up the rear in the Sunday movie
>department (or at least, it seems like they have over the past 2-3 years,
>or so), so this may not be a bad idea.

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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 07:49:59 -0500 (EST)
From: IDyeForYou @ .addy.com
To: tbaangel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Re: Oprah sho

In a message dated 97-03-29 23:13:59 EST, you write:

<< I think Oprah cut off John Dye because she wasn't used
 to being upstaged by the Angel of Death! :) >>

I think she cut him off...cause he was about to get personal and she lost her
cool...

JMTCW,

Susan

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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 07:50:00 -0500 (EST)
From: IDyeForYou @ .addy.com
To: tbaangel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Re: Oprah show

In a message dated 97-03-29 21:51:59 EST, you write:

<< Second, I couldn't understand what John said his nickname from Della 
 was.  Did anyone understand it?  If so, would you please fill me in? >>

the nickname was Love Juice...

Boy...I can't wait to ask him about that one :-)

Susan

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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 07:51:54 -0500 (EST)
From: IDyeForYou @ .addy.com
To: tbaangel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Oprah snaps and wavs

For those of you asking for them...there are snaps and wavs from the Oprah
appearance on John's page.  And yes..I did cover everyone, not just
John...but John's are the only ones that will be there long term...so if you
want them..you need to go and download them.

the page is http://funnymonkey.com

Susan

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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:57:48 EST
From: lee4afpa @ .addy.com (Karma Ortiz)
To: tbaangel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Oprah

I'm a lurker.  But I wanted to add my two cents to the Oprah discussion.

I, too, thought that she was a little short with them.  I've watched
Oprah only a few times and she seems to cut her guests off a lot--either
to keep the show moving or because she's uncomfortable with the
conversation, or...?  Whatever.

One thing I saw that  no one has mentioned yet and it struck me deeply. 
Did you notice when Della and Roma came out, that John met them at the
edge of the stage and they all shared "love you"s? (I think that's what
they were saying.)  It was sincere, too, at least it seemed to me that it
was.  How nice to see co-workers who care enough about one another to say
so. 

Just a thought.

Lee

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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:04:10 -0600 (CST)
From: gryphon @ addy.com
To: tbaangel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Thougts as I watched this week's ep( and Re: eps I want to see....)

Hmm... well, knowing lead times for TV episodes, I'm going to claim I 
had a case of good timing when I said:

On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, gryphon @ addy.com wrote:
>One thing I would dearly love to see is an episode where a human the 
>angels are sent to help *doesn't* believe the angels are angels and 
>therefore rejects their message from honest doubt.  I think it's bound 
>to happen, sooner or later. 

Although I'd rather not have had them portray the "doubters" as a bunch 
of drunken barflies.  I mean, there are sincere, *intelligent* people 
out there who would doubt fron conviction, not from lazy cynicism.

But I probably shouldn't complain until I see how it ends.

Poor Monica! She's obviously used to being taken completely seriously.  
Welcome to real life, Monica.. :(

Commercial's over, back to the show...

In-joke to Jennie: So, Andrew's "the guy" now, huh? ;>

Andrew as a pool shark... hmmm.... nice suit... :)

I like the way he drew the truth out of the crowd. Obviously, Andrew has 
more experience at this than Monica.  And the way the people gradually 
emerge as real, rather sad people with real, rather sad stories.  People 
who have given up, who have decided to settle for what they know, what 
they're sure of, but people with a basic level of decency.

And interesting that when Monica was unsure, she didn't "glow" and 
nobody believe her, but as soon as she went out there with conviction, 
people noticed....

Commercial again.

Interesting how just knowing Monica is real changes them, isn't it?  
Suddenly, none of them doubts, but none of them feels "worthy" of a 
miracle, either.  But I don't understand why Monica didn't just tell 
them that being "worthy" isn't the point.

And interesting that each of them, who a minute ago was convinced they 
were the most miserable person on earth, suddenly thinks someone else is 
worse off than them. It's all relative, isn't it?

Commercial, on to the finale..

I like that the miracle wasn't something big and flashy, but just opened 
hearts and forgiveness.  That's the sort of miracle, IMHO, God gives 
every day, and we poor mortals don't appreciate far too often.

And Monica and Andrew dancing at the end is a cute touch... but where 
will "Amethyst" sleep tonight? Wasn't the point that she didn't *have* 
anywhere to sleep?

All the same, this is TBAA as I remember it, as I missed it during the 
last few months.  It's good to see they got their "zing" back. :)

Oo... my favorite ep (the one with the Jewish archaeologist in Navaho 
Country) is being re-run next week! I'll have to be sure to watch it...

Diane E
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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:35:51 -0500 (EST)
From: deelady @ .addy..com
To: tbaangel @ .execpc.com
Subject: Sunday's ep

On March 30, you wrote 

>>All the same, this is TBAA as I remember it,<<

All I can say on those lines is this: 

I am setting here *trying* my best to write about my thoughts and feelings on 
this episode (as it was very much in the old flare of TBAA), but this episode 
hit too close to home for me, and I am having a hard time just typing this much 
because I haven't quit crying my eyes out yet from the raw pain it 
caused/exposed (nor do I think I will before morning).  This episode may end up 
being one of the ones I cannot watch a second time around.
Maybe when I can calm down, I can get my thoughts and feelings down (as I do 
have them, I just can't get them out).  So pardom me if I don't respond to it 
for a day or two.

Until later.
deelady @ .addy..com

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